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Although not perfect, it places upper and lower limits on the amount of risk able to be accepted for each mission. Flying is inherently a dangerous business; moreso in a combat zone. Allowing an aircraft commander free reign to call safety with no checks is wrong, just as would be allowing a commander the latitude to tell every crew to press no matter the risk. It pains me as a former Flight Safety Officer to know that holoh is not alone in this misunderstanding of how ORM works.

The whole point of the system is to highlight the risk of a mission high enough up the chain that it gets proper visibility and then that level in the chain of command accepts the risk. It means that person is giving you permission to execute if you mitigate the risks as briefed. They step in by going to the planners to see if things can be changed to lower the risk.

They take what they find up the chain and highlight for example, that they need more manning for the current tasking or better this or less of that. None of those concerns should be on the plate of someone flying the line. Know the tools and use them. Well, you are incorrect.

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I do understand how ORM works. Let me ask you something though. I realize that was a unique situation, but I hope it will allow you to admit that in the right situation such as lives or national security at stake, a Commander should be allowed to tell his crews to go even when there is a severe safety risk to the crew. You you either missed this part or read it and simply disregarded it altogether.

Tony addressed this very point by writing:. Though I surmise you abhorrently disagree. What if this aircrew pressed and something tragic did actually happen? And for what? I feel like the th has been on borrowed time.

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When I left from my last deployment I saw it take over 90 minutes to post schedule changes. Hopefully it has gotten better since most of the crews are in the BPC now, but when it was split between BPC, double stacks, and trailers it was a disaster. Yet, one of the other flying squadrons out there has a computer network figured out, one in each day-room, so the schedule is updated near real time.

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Too many buildings, thus too many computers, thus too much money. The EARS is too big for its own good. It gets minimal support for a squadron that is larger than most groups. You inflating something without context is willing dishonesty. Point of order: the person who wrote the message was disciplined and the OG had no problem with the crew who refused to execute. As a young AC on one deployment I set the crew culture of not accepting risk: no additional waivers, duty day extensions, I would cancel as soon as planes broke.

By the end of the deployment I was very disappointed in how I had led my crew and resolved to better balance the mission into the equation on future deployments. Quite frankly a clear understanding of the role the unit played in the context of the fight would have really helped me arrive at a better balanced ORM. Seems like a great issue for a sq Chief Pilot. Worse than the safety factor here was the TAW circa What was really despicable was the arrogance of the two Wing Commanders from that time era, and the Field grade Officers and Squadron Commanders who would cower from both men! Update Your Information.

A Tribute to Military Aviation. Ebony 2 Dedication. Recent site activity Welcome edited by Tommy Towery. At the same time I also informed the other prospective contributors that I needed some new stories for a new book. Since they both relate to different bases, and are unique in content and presentation, I decided to include both stories for your enjoyment. You read his Turner AFB story earlier. This is mine. It was used by the military to teach the dynamics of leadership and the different leadership styles of two different commanders of the same unit.

In the movie Colonel Keith Davenport played by Gary Merrill had become too close to his men and was troubled by the high losses of his unit and is deemed unfit to continue his role as commander. Gregory Peck, as Brigadier General Frank Savage, takes command of the unit with the orders to get it in shape and his hard nose tactics makes him a tyrant in the eyes of the bomber crews he leads.

During my year career, I served under commanders of both types, at one time or another, and especially remember how I hated working for the tyrant type, which I vividly remember from my B days at Carswell.

Stovall is not a flyer but is the Group Adjunct and in the opening of the movie, we find him returning to England in , four years after VE-Day. Looking back at the first time I saw the movie, I did not realize that it was set and filmed so soon after the war ended. That is especially a strange feeling now as I look back and realize it has been over 40 years since the Vietnam War, my war, ended.

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I always liked the character of Maj Stovall. He was just a man doing his job.


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He was not a war hero. The mug was like one his old unit used to announce when a bombing mission was scheduled. There was no real base named Archbury, but for the movie it was his base, and he walked around looking at the old buildings and overgrown runway as his mind takes him back to his war years. Unlike the return to Archbury, I did not find rundown and abandoned buildings, but still many things had changed on the base since I left the area in Later it was decided most of the installation should be converted into a Joint Reserve Base, retaining the Air Force Reserve presence that had historically been located at Carswell and also relocating the Navy Reserve, Marine Corps Reserve and Air National Guard flying units from nearby Naval Air Station Dallas, also identified for closure.

It is a beautiful lodge, and its presence makes it hard to remember how the area looked when I was stationed there. It is an area where I used to take my daughter to feed the ducks when I was confined to the base while pulling alert duty nearby. The other memory that immediately popped into my brain, when I saw the location, was that it was on the same road where we used to have to run our 1.

For many of us, it was the only time of the year when we actually ran — or did any organized exercise for that matter. Unlike many services, the Air Force did not maintain a rigorous physical activity schedule. Once a year we had to weigh in to prove that we were still within our weight limits, and run 1. I could never reflect upon the differences or memories of every building on the base, but there are a few places which stand out and must be noted.

We did not eat there very often back when I was a crewdog, but we had some good squadron and wing parties there.

We Were Crewdogs IV - We Had To Be Tough by Tommy Towery

It was also the site of the weekly bingo games in which my crowd participated during my crewdog days. I do not know if they ever had a Stag Bar, but when I arrived in there was not one. It seemed odd that the Air Force trusted us with an aircraft loaded with nuclear bombs, but did not trust us to not drink when we were at a place where others indulged. On the recent visit, my wife and I had dinner at the bowling alley snack bar. There were few patrons that night, and there were more eaters than bowlers.

The on-base lanes were usually frequented when our alert duties restricted us to the base, and many of the crewdogs with families would meet with them at the bowling alley for recreation at night. It was also a place to grab a quick bite on mission planning days. Near the bowling alley is the base theater. I cannot tell you the number of times I sat in its darkness, eating popcorn and drinking Cokes with my then-wife.

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There was a special row of seats at the back that was always reserved for Alert Crews and a special place in the parking lot to park our alert six-packs — always backed into the parking space so that we could have easy and quick access should the horn go off during the movie. Back then it did not cost an arm and a leg to see the movie or to get treats when we did. Even though we had free movies in the alert facility, our families could not join us there, so we met at the theater.

Besides, some of the movies shown by the gunners in the alert facility would not have been appreciated by our wives and would have been totally inappropriate for our young children. So we took advantage of having a nicer theater on base.